Entrepreneur: As a successful entrepreneur, what would you do to build wealth today? Is real estate a part of it? If so, how can entrepreneurs build wealth in a slowing housing market?
Kiyosaki: When I talk to most people about real estate, they’re thinking about owning a house. That’s not what I’m talking about. I’m buying commercial buildings and large tracts of land. I own thousands of acres of land in China, and I bought a mining company to make that land viable mining gold. That’s my formula.
Do you see changes in how entrepreneurs view success? Do they want more flexibility and other nonfinancial benefits, or are they focused mostly on monetary wealth?
The [entrepreneurs] I talk to are more concerned about their purpose and mission. Making money is just a game to them. People are looking at the meaning of work now. There’s plenty of money.
Who would you elect as the most inspiring entrepreneur?
That’s really easy. My hero’s Steve Jobs. I’ve never met the guy or talked to him, but I just resonate with him. I like everything about him. I know he’s a jerk at times, but I admire his style.
Is this a good era for entrepreneurs to grow companies and build wealth?
Technology is making it so much easier to grow big, expand quicker, reduce costs and expand revenue. The more I can use electronic or digital means of transacting business, the more I can grow wealth.
In your book, Why We Want You To Be Rich, you talk about thinking expansively as a way to grow wealth. Are there any added risks associated with this? How can you temper ambition with prudence?
When I undertake any kind of effort, I know I’m going to fail at it. I don’t expect to succeed. To me, failure is part of success. So I think big. The only way we will learn what we don’t know is by doing something. It’s feedback.
What other advice do you have for entrepreneurs today who dream not only of growing their businesses, but also of building wealth?
There’s a difference between building wealth and building a company. If my company needs me to operate, I’m a small-business owner. But my company can operate without me, and that’s why I’m wealthy. If [most business owners] stop working, their incomes stop. The key to being an entrepreneur is leveraging other people. So I surround myself with really smart people.
From an interview Entrepreneur originally conducted with Robert Kiyosaki and Donald Trump, published in Novemeber 2006