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Mashable's Pete Cashmore on Persistence

How he turned obstacles into an opportunity, why he's so obsessed with the Internet and a winning habit he learned from his father.
Mashable's Pete Cashmore on Persistence
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Pete Cashmore is founder and CEO of Mashable

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Pete Cashmore carries a quiet sense of urgency wherever he goes, despite his easygoing demeanor. As founder of the influential technology blog Mashable, the 25-year-old has been labeled everything from a tech wunderkind to one of the U.K.'s "Britons of the Year" in 2010. But the accolades do not impress him. Cashmore sees success as an ever-moving target, which drives his compulsion to be "on top of everything all the time."

Growing up in the rural village of Banchory, just outside of Aberdeen, Scotland, the self-described geek was a sickly child who befriended the Internet as a bedside companion. Missing too much high school to graduate with his peers, he earned his diploma two years later-- an early example, he says, of his tendency to be "ridiculously persistent."

Intrigued by the Web and its democratizing power, Cashmore opted out of college and launched Mashable at 19. He started the blog in an effort to decipher technology for a mainstream audience in 2005. Today the 44-employee company, with offices in New York and San Francisco, draws more than 12.5 million unique visitors to its site every month.

As Cashmore sits down for this interview with 'Trep Talk, his relaxed tone is mostly grounded in seriousness. Still, a rare chuckle emerges when it's clear he's about to own up to something. Edited interview excerpts follow. 

On discovering a passion: The Internet was appealing partly because it was something I could do in bed and feel like I was achieving something. I had an operation when I was 13 and ended up with complications, so I was in and out of the hospital. The bottom line is you can get through health challenges. It's part of why I was so driven. 

Biggest startup challenge: Not only did I not have connections, I wasn't in [Silicon] Valley. But I did have an outsider perspective, and as it turned out that was an advantage because there's a mass market that wants to know what the coolest gadgets are and how to use Facebook, Twitter and other [technology] to get ahead.

How my parents learned about Mashable: I always had the sense I'm not really where I need to be, so I thought, 'Maybe I'll tell them, if it takes off.' I never did. About a year into it, they found out when a Daily Mail reporter knocked on the door, wanting the story of who was I and where did I come from.

A single obsession: If it doesn't come through the Internet, it's not really compelling to me. I don't have a TV or watch movies. I don't like to be broadcast to, I want to participate. The Internet is an engaging experience. If I can't engage with it, it's frustrating and I don't feel like I have any influence over it, so what's the point. 

Justified play: I like gaming on my iPad and iPhone. But I'm thinking this is the next wave, so it's kind of justified.

Biggest lesson learned: Execution really shapes whether your company takes off or not. I'm very much a creative person, but you've got to do the follow-through. A lot of people start out with an exciting thing and they want to take over the world, but really the people who do take over the world have a good plan of how to get there and the steps along the way.

Video: Cashmore on more lessons for young entrepreneurs

On being the boss: The talent that has to be learned is finding out what someone's passion is and setting them up to realize that. You don't get the best work from people if you're guiding them versus them guiding themselves. 

Loyalty... is incredibly important. There's a base of stability in [our] organization that [feels] like we can weather anything because we have these relationships with key people and they're going to be with us whatever we do. 

On creative space: It takes a long time to recalibrate if you let people pull at you all the time. A lot of stress comes from reacting to stuff. You have to keep a certain guard [on your availability], if you're a creative person. You need space to try things and create. 

Video: Cashmore on managing stress as a young entrepreneur

Favorite niche news source: Trendwatching.com. Every month there's a big article on what's changing and what should businesses be focusing on, if they want to benefit from it. I read every word a hundred times. I like that big-picture thinking.

Three people I wish I could invite for dinner: Richard Branson. Albert Einstein, who was a little zany -- I think eccentricity is good. And Bono [lead singer of U2] because of the awareness he brings to charitable causes and there's a lot we could do together. He'd be great for our Social Good channel. 

On starting young: I kept my age quiet for a good few years. I didn't see it as a positive. I worked remotely, so I just didn't tell people. I tried to look older as well. I keep as much facial hair as it takes to do that. (Laughs.) You just want to be judged against everyone fairly. 

What's a Competitive Advantage for a Young Entrepreneur?

Tip for young 'treps: There's an advantage to having a certain degree of naivete about the challenges and the way things were before, so you can build something in a completely different way.

The opposite of me: My parents told me not to take risks. They're still like, 'Well, I don't know if you should do that, it sounds risky.' It's also somewhat of a British thing to be anti-risk.

What I learned from dad: My dad is good at sticking with stuff and he has a strong work ethic, which is imbued in me. Growing up, he would constantly ask what I was doing and was I achieving anything. Now, he's the opposite. (Laughs) He's like, 'Oh, you should work less. It seems like you work the whole time.' I say, 'I do. Well, you told me!'

Corrections & Amplifications: An earlier version of this article misstated where Cashmore grew up. He was raised in the rural village of Banchory, just outside of the city of Aberdeen, Scotland.

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I want to be like Pete someday :D

Great interview with a really inspiring entrepreneur. What strikes me most are the underlying values which Pete talks about throughout. I'm a recent young entrepreneur, four months into my project now which aims to be the online collective of 'Businesses with Values'. I've been documenting the whole affair, might be of interest to some readers here! http://cuckoovine.wordpress.com/2011/11/04/business-model-guide-entrepreneur-startup/

Fantastic. Age is irrelevant when you have vision and the courage to stand behind it. Well done.

Great article. One can do great things with vision

Truly a great article on how having a vision, and sticking with it, can lead to making a dent in the universe.

Pete is an inspiration. I agree it is important to have a clear vision and an outline of the steps required to get to your goal. With clarity comes power.

Pete is an inspiration. I agree it is important to have a clear vision and an outline of the steps required to get to your goal. With clarity comes power.

It's funny, I think being too old is a negative in this business.  I shave my head just to make myself look younger;-)  In 1999 I teamed up with some CS students and created one of the first social development companies (back then they called it 'interactive websites') in our area.  The local paper did a story on us and the focus was on how old I was.  I was 36 then.  It's great to see anyone rise up and overcome the negatives that litter our world.  I greatly admire these youngsters!;-)

Fantastic!

Very Cool!

Cashmore is passionate, committed and consistent. Mashable has really made an impact on the way we consume tech and social news.

Great Article

BTW... We are in the final phase of the re-release of the latest set of improvements to the site, so we are currently tweaking the new features. We encourage you to fan us on Facebook and we will let you know straight away when they are complete.

Social media is truly a competitive advantage for a young entrepreneur today. It has changed the way we interact online, both from the perspective an individual as well as an organization. For instance, for us having recently launched our website and shortly after our Facebook and Twitter pages, we were initially concentrating a great deal on driving relevant traffic to our website. In the interim of the further development and improvement of our website I shifted the initial order of  interaction somewhat realizing that I can communicate directly better through our Facebook page than doing initial testing and implementation directly on the site. It gave us an invaluable opportunity to interact and gain immediate feedback with our fans thus allowing us to improve the user experience on the site. Not to mention a cost effective way of doing so. Upon initial launch of a site, especially when you are breaking new ground in an area which is virtually untapped and certainly underutilized it is so important to release, gain feedback, analyze and be able to re-release quickly when you are ready, as to not simply be throwing darts at a board. Social media makes something that would previously require costly focus groups virtually a thing of the past.  DiedOnTheVine.com is the place to learn and grow from the lessons of "failed" business ventures. The idea is that by exploring these invaluable experiences we align ourselves to move forward with greater knowledge, understanding and awareness. We invite you to visit us on the site, after you visit us on Facebook of course!      facebook.com/diedonthevine          twitter.com/diedonthevine

 There's a good recipe here I picked; Urgency + Passion + Follow-through.Pretty respectable coming from a rural, young and handsome Brit!

Wow, I enjoyed reading this article a lot more then I thought I would, as so many of these 'interviews' seem to just be a marketing plug for whoever's new book or product. In my opinion, Mashable.com is one of the best sites online, for being so chock full of content and information. Haha, one thing that hit home for me was Pete saying he tries to have as much facial hair as possible to look older then he is, and that's true, some people definitely judge you if you're young, even though everyone has to get their start at some age. 

I especially like the

I especially like the comment about not always reacting to what's being pushed at you and leaving space for creative thinking.

The sites is a blog. So it's NI. They don't even pay guest writers.

Mashable has been one of the websites that i truly adore, too they don't support Disqus comments, I hope it will be added when they hear about this comment of mine. Thank you guys!

Awesome article, I always admire Mashable success and the way they handle their company...

great read... look forward to inviting Pete Cashmore to dinner.. :)

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